Help on getting a better war ending?

[wolfhowl]

I have no idea if this is a bug, or if I'm doing something wrong, but I can never get the war ending after siding with the hawks. It's always the almost-peace ending with the three cats attacking.

I got Kestralpaw with me, did everything except for the An Apology quest because I really don't want to have the 'liar' trait on this character. And yet I still only had the almost-peace ending.

Am I doing something wrong? Are you forced to be a liar through that path, or is there something I'm messing up on?

[Leonard]

I'll look into this. Last time I tried it it seemed to work as intended, but it's possible that I've broken it by accident.

Anyone else had this problem?

[wolfhowl]

Ight, I'm very confused now.

So I do the war things and got the peace ending.

And now I've done all of the peace things, and got a war/battle ending!

I have no idea what happened between updates or if I downloaded the wrong thing but...this is weird.

[Leonard]

I've checked the code and nothing seemed to indicate this problem.

I'll do a full run today and see if I can replicate the issue.

[firepelt]

I used to have that issue but I do not have it anymore. This is what I did to get the clearing ending in the war(I got the clearing back so that I don't accidentally cross the bordor):



I defeated the Fox.

I took back the clearing.

I beat both Shadowclan patrols. (Plus I also crossed the territory and beat that patrol. And stole herbs)

I made Waspwing beat Sootleg. (I tried to beat Sootleg myself but it was too difficult.)

I got the feather sequence.

I trained with Nettleclaw all of the time.

The only cats who hated me were Pebbleskip, Mousepaw, and Magpieburr.

[pandean]

This is how I got the clearing:

--Defeated the Fox

--Told Thrushfeather about Ravenwing and Pebbleskip

--Impressed Waspwing with my answer for the Hawks

--Recruited Kestrelpaw

--Got Badgerpaw's Heroic Skill and completed Legends Come to Life

--Found the traitor

--Waspwing defeated Sootleg

--Defeated both patrols of 3

[wolfhowl]

Feb 20, 2017 15:45:18 GMT Leonard said:

I've checked the code and nothing seemed to indicate this problem.

I'll do a full run today and see if I can replicate the issue.

ty for checking this out. Maybe I did some things wrong, but I've read through all of these guides on the peace ending and have done it multiple times before, so seeing this is a bit jarring.

[Leonard]

I just finished a Hawk run and found some minor bugs, but nothing that should affect peace/war ending.

If You still have them, could You upload the saves? It'll be easier figuring out what went wrong with them.

[wolfhowl]

I have the save for the Peace turned War ending, though may take a bit to dig up the War-turned-Peace ending (and even then, that one might have been my fault)

Attachments:

Save01.rvdata2 (563.42 KB)

[Leonard]

I checked this save and You were on a right track with it. The only thing that prevented getting the peace ending from what I've seen is that You've stepped on ShadowClan territory (I assume the clearing part? The border there can be confusing), or possibly crossed the stream (to get a feather, perhaps - You can get it safely from the stepping stones, but crossing the stream is seen as an act of agression).

[Leonard]

Also, here's the list of all the factors that influence how many cats ShadowClan will send.

From lowest to highest, it will respectively result in:

Peace ending.
Rebel ending (where only a few ShadowClan cats attack on their own)
Normal war
Full-out war (almost every ShadowClan cat attacks)
Worst ending.

Here's the factors that increase the number of cats:
++++ Stealing herbs from ShadowClan territory
+++ Confirming that ThunderClan killed Spidershade.
+ Saying that Ravenwing didn't find Spidershade's body.
+ Said that ThunderClan was attacked by a Fox recently.
+ Told Mousepaw that a Clanmate wanted to apologize.
+ Not dealing with Mousepaw at all.
+++ Telling Thrushfeather that Pebbleskip will show up at the border.
(0)/+/++ Number of marks at ShadowClan border - the more, the less cats ShadowClan will send. The zero represents a point at which Thrushfeather scolds You.
++ Nutkit is missing from ShadowClan.
++++ Hawks complete their mission on Day 6 (i.e. You didn't inform Amberflame that's something is happening).
+ WindClan border was barely marked.
++ Helped Duskpaw fight Toadtail.
+ Let Duskpaw fight Toadtail.

If Hawk:
{
++ Told Mousepaw that a Clanmate wanted to apologize.
+ Lost battle at Bushy Hill.
++ Kestrelpaw joined Hawks and war is unlikely
}

+ Didn't convince Blackheart to give herbs to ShadowClan.
+++ Spy not found out.
+++ Crossed border with Kestrelpaw.
++ Told Magpieburr that Waspwing won't be at ShadowClan border the day after gathering.
++++ Crossed the border.
++++ Fought with any ShadowClan border patrol.
+++ Sent Rogues to ShadowClan territory.
+ Picked up a feather from ShadowClan territory.

Factors that reduce the number of cats ShadowClan will send:

- Saying that Ravenwing found the body.
- Denying that Fox attacked ThunderClan recently.
---/- Passing the apology to Pebbleskip (more if neither Mousepaw nor Thrushfeather know about the quest).
-- Nutkit is in ShadowClan.
- Both Player and Kestrelpaw attend Dove meeting.
---- Amberflame interrupts Hawks plans.
- Telling Magpieburr that Waspwing will be near ShadowClan border the next day.
-- Kestrelpaw is a Hawk and you'd get full-out war or the worst ending.

[Snowspirit]

I can't get Kestrelpaw to join the Hawks and how do you get Amberflame to stop what the Hawks are doing on day 6

[wolfhowl]

Feb 21, 2017 16:15:55 GMT Leonard said:

I checked this save and You were on a right track with it. The only thing that prevented getting the peace ending from what I've seen is that You've stepped on ShadowClan territory (I assume the clearing part? The border there can be confusing), or possibly crossed the stream (to get a feather, perhaps - You can get it safely from the stepping stones, but crossing the stream is seen as an act of agression).

Ah, that explains it! I didnt cross it, since it was on thr stepping stones itself, but i didnt think it would trigger that enough for a war.

Thank you!

[Leonard]

Feb 21, 2017 19:28:55 GMT Snowspirit said:

I can't get Kestrelpaw to join the Hawks and how do you get Amberflame to stop what the Hawks are doing on day 6

On day 6, You need to find Amberflame before You complete the patrol. She's in the mossy thicket. Tell her that something suspicious is happening and she'll handle the rest.

[Ravenfeather232]

Feb 22, 2017 16:34:08 GMT Leonard said:

Feb 21, 2017 19:28:55 GMT Snowspirit said:

I can't get Kestrelpaw to join the Hawks and how do you get Amberflame to stop what the Hawks are doing on day 6

On day 6, You need to find Amberflame before You complete the patrol. She's in the mossy thicket. Tell her that something suspicious is happening and she'll handle the rest.

But how do you get Kestrelpaw in the Hawks?