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Post by Lightflame on Oct 16, 2017 4:22:48 GMT
I did some two truths and a lie stuff on a the Discord, for theory fodder, and thought I'd repost it here so that people who aren't on it can speculate as well. Have fun!
Two lies and a truth - Mousepaw knows who Spidershade's killer is. - The lion from Duskpaw's prophecy is the final boss. - Rabbitclaw is training to be strong enough to kill Voideyes.
Two truths and a lie - Amberflame is Splashstar's daughter. - Paw shows up at the beginning of Act II and is immediately killed by birds. - Ardor is a ThunderClan cat.
Two lies and a truth: Voideyes edition - Patchfur and Voideyes are one and the same. - Voideyes won't let you into the medicine den because Thornstep's soul is hidden there. - Voideyes is actually a victim.
Two truths and a lie - Kestrelpaw is sick because Galeflower is poisoning him. - Of your friends, Duskpaw is the evil one. - If you don't complete Creekskip's Heroic Quest, Nettleclaw dies.
Two lies and a truth: Mystic Edition - The true purpose of RiverClan's cullings is to feed life force to an evil entity Splashstar worships. - Kittypet has already met a cat who is immortal. - WindClan really does have a beastmaster.
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Post by pandean on Oct 16, 2017 6:05:52 GMT
Hmmmm....
1. Mousepaw knows who killed Spidershade
2. Paw shows up at the beginning of act 2, etc.
3. Voideyes is actually a victim
4. Either Kestrelpaw or Duskpaw's one
5. Kittypet has met a cat
Also, what's the server for?
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Post by Lightflame on Oct 16, 2017 19:01:17 GMT
Two more
Two truths and a lie - Reedpaw and Rabbitclaw were going to team up. - One of the characters Kittypet has met is secretly Robinbreeze. - Finchstar and Voideyes have met.
Two lies and a truth - Paw is the stillborn kit from Voideyes ThunderClan. - Thornstep was killed by Rabbitclaw because she was trying to kill Stormstar. - You can give up part of your soul to Voideyes to make him become more powerful.
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Post by Rabbitheart on Oct 17, 2017 17:25:40 GMT
Two lies and a truth - Mousepaw knows who Spidershade's killer is. - The lion from Duskpaw's prophecy is the final boss. - Rabbitclaw is training to be strong enough to kill Voideyes. I don't think it's the first one. The second could be interesting, especially if the later point about Duskpaw being evil one is right... So I guess it's the truth. Two truths and a lie - Amberflame is Splashstar's daughter. - Paw shows up at the beginning of Act II and is immediately killed by birds. - Ardor is a ThunderClan cat. For some reason I think the second one is right. X) Hmm... killed by hawk or eagle? Or by Hawks cats? Although that would mean Paw is immortal. Or this story's Heavystep. I was suprised that Paw was just a level 1 in the debug. So I think there is reason for it. The third one could be truth too, although I don't know who it could be. Two lies and a truth: Voideyes edition - Patchfur and Voideyes are one and the same. - Voideyes won't let you into the medicine den because Thornstep's soul is hidden there. - Voideyes is actually a victim. The third one is the truth. Two truths and a lie - Kestrelpaw is sick because Galeflower is poisoning him. - Of your friends, Duskpaw is the evil one. - If you don't complete Creekskip's Heroic Quest, Nettleclaw dies. The third one. Also, I think there is is at least a possibly that Duskpaw turns evil. There's variable in the debug which name is "Duskpaw betrayal". Although it could mean also that you can betray Duskpaw. However, I have a problem think he is always Evil being the kind of cat he is... Two lies and a truth: Mystic Edition - The true purpose of RiverClan's cullings is to feed life force to an evil entity Splashstar worships. - Kittypet has already met a cat who is immortal. - WindClan really does have a beastmaster. Isn't Voideyes immortal? I thought he is... Alright, a new two truths and a lie. - Reedpaw and Rabbitclaw were going to team up. - One of the characters Kittypet has met is secretly Robinbreeze. - Finchstar and Voideyes have met. Mikan mentions old Lily who was helped by the warriors. Kittypet knows her. So maybe she is that? I don't think Robinbreeze is in any Clan after what she did. The third is also possible. Okay, not it's time for two lies and a truth. - Paw is the stillborn kit from Voideyes ThunderClan. - Thornstep was killed by Rabbitclaw because she was trying to kill Stormstar. - You can give up part of your soul to Voideyes to make him become more powerful. The last one.
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Post by troubledspar7an on Oct 17, 2017 17:33:06 GMT
I would just like to point out here that it alternates between being two truths and a lie and two lies and a truth.
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Post by Eagleheart on Oct 17, 2017 18:46:02 GMT
Two lies and a truth - Mousepaw knows who Spidershade's killer is. - The lion from Duskpaw's prophecy is the final boss. - Rabbitclaw is training to be strong enough to kill Voideyes. The first seems more logical. Lion from the prophecy also could make sense, though... And I don't even know what to say about the third. Two truths and a lie - Amberflame is Splashstar's daughter. - Paw shows up at the beginning of Act II and is immediately killed by birds. - Ardor is a ThunderClan cat. Amberflame one would pretty much explain why she of all cats is killed by Riverclan in the worst ending: going for the traitor is a thing, right? And it is established that ThunderClan is still the most outsider-friendly out of other Clans (except for SkyClan), so Ardor being there also makes sense. The one connected with Paw would either mean that she's immortal, or that Leo was kidding with us, telling us that she would be one of permanent party members, which is more of Lightflame's part. Two lies and a truth: Voideyes edition - Patchfur and Voideyes are one and the same. - Voideyes won't let you into the medicine den because Thornstep's soul is hidden there. - Voideyes is actually a victim. No real idea hear, next. Two truths and a lie - Kestrelpaw is sick because Galeflower is poisoning him. - Of your friends, Duskpaw is the evil one. - If you don't complete Creekskip's Heroic Quest, Nettleclaw dies. The last seems to have A LOT of sense, since her Heroic quest would most likely involve getting rid of her beliefs. And the other two... I don't know, Duskpaw does seem a bit arrogant, but he embraces the Power of Friendship under right circumstances, so I would go for the first one. No idea why Galeflower would do it, though. Two lies and a truth: Mystic Edition - The true purpose of RiverClan's cullings is to feed life force to an evil entity Splashstar worships. - Kittypet has already met a cat who is immortal. - WindClan really does have a beastmaster. I was pretty sure Voideyes was immortal, no? So the second one. Two truths and a lie - Reedpaw and Rabbitclaw were going to team up. - One of the characters Kittypet has met is secretly Robinbreeze. - Finchstar and Voideyes have met. No idea, but maybe second and third. I just don't know. Two lies and a truth - Paw is the stillborn kit from Voideyes ThunderClan. - Thornstep was killed by Rabbitclaw because she was trying to kill Stormstar. - You can give up part of your soul to Voideyes to make him become more powerful. The first one is a bit... strange, cats in the afterlife don't seem to age, and sending a newborn into battle, well, skipping this one. The second would mean Rabbitclaw would have some loyalty for his Clan, which seems... I can't really say, we've seen too little of him, and jerks with the hearts of gold ARE a thing. The third one, though, is the classical deal with the devil, which seems FAR too appealing. Going with the third for now.
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Post by TheCommonStray on Oct 17, 2017 23:27:32 GMT
Lightflame When will you reveal which are which? O:
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Post by Crimsonbird on Oct 22, 2017 12:44:20 GMT
Okay, time for some speculation. There, what have we got? 1) I personally think the 1st one is true, because the 2 others, well... There, OF COURSE MOUSEPAW KNOWS THE MURDERER, because IT'S BLACKHEART! 2) I think "Amberflame is Splashstar's daughter" is a bit too much, so I'd say the two others are true, for sure. 3) "Patchfur and Voideyes are one and the same"... Hm... I think someone has thrown that idea on some other thread, but that's a bit big. The second is true beauty, I totally believe it, though, the third one sounds more logical, so, sadly, it's probably the truth. 4)I'll say it right now, I'm a true believer of the 3rd one. 1st one would sound a bit weird, as does the 2nd, though, I'd say the 2nd is true. 5)'Kay. The first one is ABSOLUTE BEAUTY. The second one sounds kinda obvious, since Voideyes is most probably immortal. But THE FIRST ONE. It just has to be true. 6)I'll say the 3rd one is true, because the cat who appears in the intro looks like Voideyes. And the 2nd may also be true, I'm pretty sure Lily is actually Robinbreeze. 7)The first wouldn't be so dumb, as the stillborn kit's name is "Kit", so, as an apprentice, she would be "Paw". I like the idea of Rabbitclaw killing Thornstep, yet, why would Thornstep want to kill Stormstar? The 3rd one is just majestic, so I'd say either 1 or 3 is true. EDIT: Actually, the 3 must be true, bcause I have seen in the debug that Paw is actually Darkshine (the Shadowclanner Antwhisker is talking to at the Gathering)
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Post by troubledspar7an on Oct 22, 2017 16:15:47 GMT
Two truths and a lie - Amberflame is Splashstar's daughter. - Paw shows up at the beginning of Act II and is immediately killed by birds. - Ardor is a ThunderClan cat. Just as an update for those not in the discord, Lightflame has confirmed this one (Amberflame is not Splashstar's daughter). In the follow up questions, he further explains: "Well, the cat who wants to talk to Ardor is an elder..... And nobody ever said that there could only be one Paw."
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Post by Crimsonbird on Oct 23, 2017 13:34:51 GMT
Two truths and a lie - Amberflame is Splashstar's daughter. - Paw shows up at the beginning of Act II and is immediately killed by birds. - Ardor is a ThunderClan cat. Just as an update for those not in the discord, Lightflame has confirmed this one (Amberflame is not Splashstar's daughter). In the follow up questions, he further explains: "Well, the cat who wants to talk to Ardor is an elder..... And nobody ever said that there could only be one Paw." Wait... SO ARDOR IS REALLY REDFLOWER?! I knew it! "Nobody ever said there was only one Paw"... 'Kay, this is getting a bit too weird for me.
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Post by firepelt on Oct 23, 2017 15:10:45 GMT
If Ardor is really Redflower, then why did Redflower mention Ardor in The Great rogue migration rather than saying I?
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Post by Lightflame on Oct 23, 2017 18:18:11 GMT
If Ardor is really Redflower, then why did Redflower mention Ardor in The Great rogue migration rather than saying I? Redflower never says anything directly about Ardor. Only Mosstail does.
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Post by talizorahvasnerd on Oct 30, 2017 2:44:13 GMT
First one the truth: The Mousepaw one sounds the most likely if anything Second Lie: Paw getting killed off immediately. Why? Third truth: Perhaps Voideyes being a victim? I wanna know more about them really Fourth lie: Galeflower poisoning Kestrelpaw? I haven't played the medicine cat route so I don't know if anything is mentioned there, but I've sort of assumed Kestrelpaw had asthma Fifth truth: The Kittypet one. Somehow I think it's the second cat in the kittypet area. I dunno.
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Post by rainstorm on Feb 26, 2018 16:24:56 GMT
Two lies and a truth - Mousepaw knows who Spidershade's killer is. This one honestly makes the most sense to me. He asks you some very specific questions, so, at the very least, he has a theory.- The lion from Duskpaw's prophecy is the final boss. But didn't the prophecy say, "From the sky a lion will save the clans?" Unless in one ending you became evil, or played as the ultimate villain, or you turn into the lion while you fight the final-ugh, never mind. I'll save this for my theories threads.- Rabbitclaw is training to be strong enough to kill Voideyes. We've never seen Rabbitclaw train. Ever. He seems to be pretty confidant in where he stands, combat wise anyway...Two truths and a lie - Amberflame is Splashstar's daughter. This makes little sense, but she wouldn't be the first nazi cult leader to be a hypocrite. Who knows, maybe she was a decent cat before she went insane or something. Besides, doesn't Amberflame get killed in the RiverClan ending? Splashstar does hate mixed blood...- Paw shows up at the beginning of Act II and is immediately killed by birds. This makes the least amount of sense. She's one of the party members, unless she's a ghost while you fight, and that doesn't make a whole lot of sense either. - Ardor is a ThunderClan cat. Wasn't there a theory she was Redflower somewhere? I'll take it.
Two lies and a truth: Voideyes edition - Patchfur and Voideyes are one and the same. No. - Voideyes won't let you into the medicine den because Thornstep's soul is hidden there. I really like this one, I really do, but...- Voideyes is actually a victim. This one has the most evidence. Providing Voideyes isn't lying his/her tail off. Which, actually, is more likely.
Hmmm...Voideyes's line about the nightmare, and the way he genuinely seems unfazed and confused that you would be points to three. If I'm wrong and his creepy moveset points in the direction I'm think it's pointing in, I'll go with the Thornstep one. Two truths and a lie - Kestrelpaw is sick because Galeflower is poisoning him. Wha...? Where's the motive? Where's the means? There's no herbs that make it look like a cat has asthma. No way.- Of your friends, Duskpaw is the evil one. Duskpaw? Villain? Does not compute.- If you don't complete Creekskip's Heroic Quest, Nettleclaw dies. This one makes sense. Considering the two are connected, and furthermore, I think Leonard said somewhere that if Creekskip isn't influenced the right way by you, when she becomes leader RiverClan will continue the bloodbath. Nettlclaw is half clan, so...[\spoiler]
Wait, there's only one lie? Welp, I'm stumped. The only one I'm certain of is the third choice. I have no idea why Galeflower would poison Kestrelpaw, and I don't think Duskpaw would be evil either. I dunno.Two lies and a truth: Mystic Edition - The true purpose of RiverClan's cullings is to feed life force to an evil entity Splashstar worships. Eh...wasn't she saying somewhere she thought she was pleasing StarClan? Despite everything...this one seems...Fishy. *rimshot*- Kittypet has already met a cat who is immortal. - WindClan really does have a beastmaster. Once again I'm caught in a cross road. Do I pick the choice that caters to my insane theory, or do I listen to logic. Logic dictates that Kittypet has met an immortal, and it's Voideyes. Theory dictates beastmaster. Eh. I don't have a fantastic track record of my theories being right, sooooo...Kittypet has met and immortal, and it's Voideyes.
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Post by troubledspar7an on Feb 26, 2018 17:53:41 GMT
- Kittypet has already met a cat who is immortal. - WindClan really does have a beastmaster. Once again I'm caught in a cross road. Do I pick the choice that caters to my insane theory, or do I listen to logic. Logic dictates that Kittypet has met an immortal, and it's Voideyes. Theory dictates beastmaster. Eh. I don't have a fantastic track record of my theories being right, sooooo...Kittypet has met and immortal, and it's Voideyes.
I'm going to give my two cents on this speculation: VoidClan is obviously inside a second-realm space with all of the spirits within the Nursery, and with the VoidClan theory being one with the most backing at the moment, I do believe that Voideyes is dead. However, this does not necessarily mean that Voideyes is not immortal. There is a chance that Voideyes somehow obtained immortalization within the second realm. Although this leads to a little bit of a branch-off. All second realm cats fade away into nothingness as all of the cats in the first realm (the living world) forget about them (Both shown in StarClan, and Rock confirmed the same happens with the Dark Forest). So, what this means is either there is another living cat that knows about Voideyes, or Voideyes had obtained immortality and that is why he has not faded away from existance. And who knows, maybe Voideyes with his immortality inside the second realm has lead to a superposition state where he's both considered a first realm cat and a second realm cat, causing all of the kit spirits etc. to not fade either (although with them unidentified, there is the possibility that this is unneeded as they might have died within the near timeline and there are still living cats that remember them (i.e. the cat killed by Splashstar, Dawnkit (possibly Duskpaw's sibling), etc).
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