forestpelt
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Post by forestpelt on Oct 31, 2017 3:58:38 GMT
Hello! I got some information from Lightflame, and I think by now I have a pretty good idea who the murderer might be. So, I'll get right into explaining!
SUSPECT 1: Amberflame On the discord, it was said that Amberflame interacted with Shadowclan cats Constantly. This means that they might've learned about Spidershade's sickness, and used it as an opportunity to strike. They are in the Doves, too, so this could be a clear sign from Voideyes 'to not trust the doves'. In the Riverclan ending, Amberflame out of all people is the one to die....Isn't this a tad bit suspicious? Amberflame is a clear suspect, but you never know. Maybe there's a key part to the puzzle we're all missing. - SUSPECT 2: Thrushfeather This is very unlikely, and there is barely any evidence. All I can remember from Thrushfeather is that if you ask her who killed spidershade her relationship with you decreases. Not nearly as suspicious as Amberflame. - SUSPECT 3: Nettleclaw This is also a bit unlikely, but Nettleclaw WAS patrolling/hunting (I can't remember) near the border around the time of Spidershade's death. She's also had the 'fight if it means it'll benefit your clan' type of personality, at least to me. She could've snuck up on Spidershade and attacked him or something. Who knows.
Out of all of these, Amberflame is the most suspicious. Maybe if there is ever an act two, we'll be able to ask Nutkit about the murderer. This is all for now, I might update if I forgot something.
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Post by Lightflame on Oct 31, 2017 10:13:42 GMT
Nutkit doesn't actually know who the killer was. That was a joke too. I thought that implying cannibalism there was enough to make that clear.
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Post by forestpelt on Oct 31, 2017 13:43:19 GMT
Shit. Writing at 2AM strikes again!
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Post by Crimsonbird on Nov 1, 2017 13:14:59 GMT
Amberflame was guarding the camp at that time, but, yet, that's not a problem as Firetail, the other guard, was completely exhausted, and might have fallen asleep at some point. Though, I don't see why she would've wanted to kill a Shadowclan warrior? If she wanted to provoke a war, then why didn't she join the Hawks?
My personal preferred suspect is still Blackheart. My evidence: -I don't get why a Shadowclan warrior would tell a Thunderclan warrior that one of their Clanmates is sick. Sorry, but it sounds absurd to me, unless they have absolutely no loyalty. Though, I know medicine cats often share news about their Clanmates' health problems. Blackheart most likely had learnt from Pebbleskip that Spidershade was sick.
-If you ask him about Spider's murder, Mousepaw will say he may have caught someone stealing prey or herbs, which would explain the murder. And it's not a secret that Shadowclan possesses herbs that are vital to Thunderclan. He may not like you, but Medicine cats do not lie, so I trust that.
-On Day 3, after the fox attack, Blackheart asks you about "making a horrible mistake, that could have hurt, or killed other cats". It is very possible that he had tried to steal herbs from Shadowclan, Spidershade caught him, and Blackheart panicked, and killed him.
That's all I remember, but yet, the few facts we can get in this Act, put all together, seem to point Blackheart. Again, that's my personal view.
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Post by Rabbitheart on Nov 1, 2017 15:31:04 GMT
I find it suspicious that Thrushfeather's relationship with you drops when you ask her about Spidershade. However, that doesn't mean that she is the murderer. It could be that she knows who murderer is but doesn't want that you know it. Also, I think there is one reason more... If you are in the title screen and wait, there will come some scenes. One of them is Spidershade and some cat who is clearly in love. Isn't that cat Thrusfeather? Unless Shadowclan has a cat who looks exactly like her.
So I think that when Thrusfeather says that she has something to do, she was going to meet Spidershade. Then something went wrong. I have no clearly suspect. - Thrusfeather herself? After Rabbitclaw, maybe she didn't want that others find out. Also, if she and Spidershade were meeting a while, she would know about his sickness. - Nettlepaw was near and she would probably has something to say if her mother is meeting other clan cat again. Although I'm not sure she would murder him. - Ravenwing. She and Thrusfeather were friends sometime. Maybe she tried to stop Thrusfeather and things just went really wrong? Would explain why she wanted to apologize and later to talk with Thrushfeather. And also that she found the body. - Waspwing. I have no motive, though.
By the way, is there reason why Nutkit was found in the lake?
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Post by talizorahvasnerd on Nov 1, 2017 15:57:05 GMT
I don't have anything to back it up, but I've got a feeling in my gut that Thrushfeather's the murderer.
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Post by Waterstar on Nov 1, 2017 16:59:46 GMT
Wait, so Blackheart can kill a Shadowclan warrior (Assuming), but is scared of a hare and rats?
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Post by talizorahvasnerd on Nov 1, 2017 17:03:36 GMT
Wait, so Blackheart can kill a Shadowclan warrior (Assuming), but is scared of a hare and rats? He could be only faking his fear, it would keep him below any radar.
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Post by Snowspirit on Nov 1, 2017 21:09:12 GMT
But Blackheart seems very dedicated to saving lives. If you ask Blackheart if Badgerpaw could be his apprentices, he gives you this rant about life
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Post by Lightflame on Nov 2, 2017 0:39:49 GMT
I don't care if anyone is off track, but I want it to be for the right reasons, so I'll say that Thrushfeather isn't in love with Spidershade. I made those title screen things for Leo on a whim, and I just picked a random cat sprite for the cat who liked him, not realizing who it was. At that time, I also had no idea who the killer was.
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Post by Rabbitheart on Nov 2, 2017 3:00:25 GMT
Ok, good to hear.
I don't have any theories, then.
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Post by Crimsonbird on Nov 3, 2017 20:43:11 GMT
By the way, is there reason why Nutkit was found in the lake? If you find her, but let her die, and talk to her in the Voideyes dream, she'll say she was caught by an owl, and managed to get off its grip. And will say she wonders why Thundercats didn't save her. #guiltfuel
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Post by snowpaw on Feb 25, 2018 14:46:19 GMT
I think Spidershades murderer was Thrushfeather. She could have killed him inbetween the hunting lesson and the thicket meeting. And the reason she killed him is because she wanted to take the clearing back. As a Hawk she would have known the Briarstar would not attack first, so in order to stir up conflict, she killed Spidershade. This way, there would have been a war with Thunderclan and Shadowclan. Also, the mistake Blackheart tells you about. Perhaps Pebbleskip told him about Spidershades illness and the mistake Blackheart made was telling Thrushfeather about this.
Also its SUPER suspicious how Thrushfeathers relationship with you drops if you ask her about the murder.
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Post by Green on Aug 5, 2019 7:13:53 GMT
I kinda think it's Briarstar tbh... I don't have a lot of evidence, but he is always talking about justice and doing to right thing with no other details and I think that's strange
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Post by Sunnypaw on Apr 13, 2023 16:43:49 GMT
I suspect that Spidershade murderer was Foxclaw. Here is why I think that: -In the Gathering, when you ask a cat (I'm sorry, I can't remember who it was) it tells you something about Thornstep and how did she secretly met sometimes with Spidershade. It also tells you that Foxclaw hated Spidershade because Thornstep's kits looked suspiciously like Spidershade. And when Ravenwing shouts that Spidershade is dead Foxclaw isn't in the camp so...
I also think that Thrushfeather is suspicious too, because when you have finished the hunting training she tells you that she has to do something. (I apologize if there is any spelling mistake. English is not my first language)
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